Last time I was out there, 13 Mile Loop was maybe a 3. This is because of 1 set of rocks that you have to descend. No bypass. Otherwise, it is an easy trail. Other trails out there (Rock Bottom, Bronco Falls, Sh**ter and Arockolypse) are rated 3 and up. For info on these other trails, check with VV4W or Total Karnage.

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From what I remember that Jason told me, there use to be 3 loops and now only 2.
I did all 3 in my no lift Xterra, when there were 3.
Much fun to be had in the sand, have fun.
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Thanks Charlie

7:30a (leave by 8a)
(I-15 & Speedway)
Petro Stopping Center
6595 N Hollywood Blvd
Las Vegas, NV 89115

Check the very first post.

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Ya know, ifin I get up early enough I just might meet up with y'all.
Hard to pass up breakfast at the Iron Skillet.
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I hope y'all aren't in bed yet and I should have added the following in my first post.
After rereading what Bob said about hump& bump, I assume there is more trails then the 3 that I mentioned. Therefore I will attempt some vague directions to the place were we went.
Past the Chevron, going towards Logandale, make a right turn on some side street, you may, or may not see a Cadillac 4x4 on the left side of the road, make a right at the end of the street. I think this is were the dirt road starts. Left across railroad tracks, follow that till you come to the outhouse. Straight ahead to a short difficult stretch, or left up the hill to the paved road and then right down the hill. At the bottom of the hill is a left will take you to the sand, straight starts one of the loops that end up at the sand. Thats the best I can do, now your on your own.

By the way if you go this way take your time, people living around there get ticked if you go to fast.

Good luck